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Cute Q-85SX hub motor test

Published: 28 December 2011
Last updated: 11 November 2023

Intro

Here, we test the Cute Q-85SX hub motor on my motor test stand. With this we can create among others the torque/speed curve.

Motor test benchMotor test bench

Specs

  • Weight 1.84 kg
  • Reduction ratio: 12.6
  • Rotor alnico number: 16
  • Thread M12x1.25 

Measuring motor parameters

This is done HERE.

  • R = 0.307Ω
  • k = 1.57
  • Friction torque Tf = 0.82Nm

Motor current on the scope

Cute Q-85SX hub motor current on the scopeCute Q-85SX hub motor current on the scope

Manufacturer graphs

Many hub motors don't have full specifications, but the Cute Q-85SX is an exception, the manufacturer delivers the motor graphs.

Cute Q-85SX motor graph from the manufacturerCute Q-85SX motor graph from the manufacturer

An application of irradiated cross linked PVC wire

Because the motor cable goes through a small hole, the insulation should be very thin. Therefore cross linked PVC wire is used, see the article here.

Irradiated PVC motor cableIrradiated PVC motor cable

Motor load test with the test bench

The data from the test bench are processed in this Excel sheet.

Notes:

  • The motor is tested inclusive the motor controller KU63.
  • The motor controller current limit value is changed from 12A to about 20A.
  • The motor is used without the Hall sensors.
  • The measurements are done inclusive the motor connection cable which is 24mΩ per phase.
  • The accuracy of the test bench is about 5%.

Graph 1: Cute Q-85SX hub motor efficiency, please note the accuracy is just 5%Graph 1: Cute Q-85SX hub motor efficiency, please note the accuracy is just 5%

Graph 2: hub motor torque / speed, IGraph 2: hub motor torque / speed, I

Graph 3: hub motor Pout, Pin, Ploss, UGraph 3: hub motor Pout, Pin, Ploss, U

Graph 4: hub motor torque / currentGraph 4: hub motor torque / current

Calculated motor graphs

On basis of the motor parameters, the motor efficiency graph can be created too. See THIS Excel sheet.

Q-85SX efficiency calculatedQ-85SX efficiency calculated

Graph 1, motor efficiency measuredGraph 1, motor efficiency measured

We clearly see that both graphs are almost identical in the linear range 0 ... 18Nm.
Note that in order to fit the calculated graph, the gearbox efficiency is set to 94% and the motor temperature set to 50°C.

https://opensourceebikefirmware.bitbucket.io/development/Motors--BMSBattery_Q85.html

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